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Tyler: Strong sweatshirt
Coley: *laughs* Oh boy!
Quinn: Yeah, man let's do it! I'm ready man.
Coley: I think you're just showin' off at this point to be quite honest.
Tyler: Yeah he's just flexin', "hey hold on lemme go get a couple of my championship rings and we'll get started!"...You good to go? We're ready when you are.
Quinn: Let's do it.
Tyler: We're here with Quinn Cook of the Los Angeles Lakers, thank you for join us. How are you Quinn?
Quinn: I'm good, how are y'all? Y'all good?
Tyler:*nods*
Coley:*nods*
Tyler: Doin' well, I guess I should say Executive Producer Quinn Cook, tell us a little bit about that.
Quinn: Oh man, I was brought on a project by KD and his partner Rich Kleinman for him to bring me on our project we just dropped May 15th on Showtime "Basketball County: In the Water" and for me to be a part of that process was fun and it was something i've always wanted to do and I had so much fun doing promo and actually sitting in on, not sitting it in, it's a meeting but being on the phone during some meetings and people actually asking for my input and stuff like that. So it was a great experience for me.
Coley: What was some of the input you gave? Like what were some of the edits where you were like "I don't like how that's portraying me, show this 3 I hit."
Quinn: Man, I wish I was into it like that. I was only into a couple things, my other partner Jimmy Jeffries he was a director doin' it and anytime they would have any changes or important things, he would fill me in right after but I just gave my input on players and stuff. My high school and my AAU team so I had a big part in that and just givin' them some insight and just some expanded detail on certain things. It was fun man, I wish I was really in the trenches like I will be goin' forward just, you know, "no don't do that or naw I don't like that" stuff like that so I gotta-
Tyler: *throws hand up* Get em outta here! *laughing*
Coley: Slappin' coffee outta the interns hands *laughing*
Quinn: *laughing* Yeah I gotta long way to go before I get there.
Tyler: Baby steps we'll put that in part 2 of the documentary.
Quinn: Yeaahh-
*silence*
Tyler: Nah go ahead.
Quinn: I was just sayin', it's so much depending on that topic so hopefully we can continue to build.
Tyler: Now in the documentary you mentioned you had 5 pro guys on your high school team, who were the 5?
Quinn: It was myself, Victor Oladipo, Jerami Grant, Jerian Grant and Josh Selby.
Tyler: I've never heard of any of those guys so what're they doin'? What ended up happenin'? O-La-Dipo you say? I don't uh *lifts hand inconfusion*
Coley: *laughing*
Quinn: *blank face serious* You know who that is.
Tyler: *bursts out with laughter* I'm not familiar no. *shakes head* That's insane, in the NBA you've played with like AD, Dirk, Klay, Steph, LeBron. Would an all time NBA team would that be able to beat your high school team or like an all time PG County team?
Quinn: Uh well I mean a team with Dirk, AD, Bron, Steph, Klay...That definitely will beat a high school team *laughing*
Tyler: Listen KD, Oladipo I mean...
Coley: Beasley. At high school age and Beasley and KD are there, I don't know.
Quinn: Oh, oh are you sayin' a PG County team in high school?
Tyler: Yeah.
Coley: *nodding* yeah yeah
Quinn: Against what *thinking* like Bron in high school, AD in high school...
Tyler: I'm goin' with PG County!
Coley: AD in high school was like 6'1 yeah I don't know if he even plays.
Quinn: *smiling* I love the confidence, I love the confidence...I ain't boutta go on and be like "yeah we better than everybody duh da da!" but you know if it's a conversation that's all we ask for man and the thing about us, it's just so unique and so small, we don't even have a million people and we all grew up together like same Middle school, same AAU teams since we was kids to playin' in the NBA beatin' each other and bein' together so I think that's what makes us so unique, for sure.
Coley: When was the first time basketball was even remotely difficult for you? Was it college cause like AAU, highschool I assume you guys were just running people off the court routinely.
Quinn: I ain't gon' lie, i ain't gon' lie it started for me young like AAU like in our area. That's when it really got difficult when I started to see different players from all over. Growin' up we all played county basketball that was like the big thing before AAU and I was always pretty good in county, we always had good teams and the big thing was making the all star game like if you made the all star game you was for real in the county. That started at like 9 years old but when I started AAU and started to travel and just see "oh he's the best guy from Indiana and he's the best guy from Cali" and I started measuring myself up when I would come back home, just bein' the best guy in DC or in PG wasn't enough, for everybody. Then you see your friends goin' off and doin' major things nationally, that's when it really got serious for me, but to answer your question I would say around 13, 12-13 is when I started to play up with DC Assault and I really didn't never play and I was like just a guy, at my age even though I was the youngest guy and I wasn't good enough to play so from there thats when it started, and I don't wanna say difficult, it just started to get more challenging and I just knew I had to get better.
Tyler: So around that age who were the guys you all looked up to? I feel like the guys now are lookin' up to KD, Oladipo, yourself. Who are the guys like in the PG area that you looked to at that age?
Quinn: Man there's many for me, Demar Johnson, Jarrett Jack, Tyjuan Lawson, obviously KD but imma name guys that are not the popular answer.
Tyler: *nods* right right
Quinn: Kurt Smith, was one of my favorites. Calvin Kayins, Eddie Bashum, obviously Delonte West. Walt Williams is a lot older but my father used to tell me how good he was
Tyler: Right *nods*
Quinn: Chris Wright's one of my favorite players, Nigel Munson, Austin Freeman man I can keep goin'. Markelle Starks, there's so many guys who didn't make the league who were legends and hero's growin' up because they laid the foundation for my generation.
Tyler: Mmm *nods*
Coley: So what was it that made you pick Duke? You listed a lot of guys there, none of them went to Duke. What was it that was like "let me go to Duke"
Quinn: Yeah well my favorite player of all time is Nolan Smith, that's my godbrother and I say that in all my interviews, him and KD are the 2 guys who I idolize the most, who I studied the most and who I was around the most. He obviously went to Duke and growin' up you always want to go to the best college and try to be on the best stage. Obviously Duke since I was growin' up, they've been in the upper echelon of colleges and so I always wanted to go there but then when Nolan went there that's when I knew I wanted to go there, I had to go there, just to see his progression there definitely made me want to go there as well.
Coley: Well it set off unintentionally in your life, you've played for some of the most hated franchises of all time. Between Duke, now you're with the Lakers, the Warriors historically weren't but while you were there, extremely hateable! Do you ever think you're gonna end up with like a Pacers, a team no one hates or loves?
Quinn: I don't think New York likes the Pacers, I don't think-
Coley: Yeah but the Knicks, they don't barely even have a team these days!
Tyler: Yeah, I think they just hate Reggie Miller
Coley: *laughs* Yeah
Quinn: Well to be honest man, i've been lucky. I've been lucky to of been placed with such good teams, for me it started in AAU when I was in AAU DC Assault was one of the top dogs in the city and one of the top dogs nationally, so we got everybody's best shot cause guys like Demar, Keith Bogans, guys like that laid the foundation for us. Beasley, Nolan so when I got to DC Assault they were a powerhouse so I got that early and then obviously goin' to Duke where we're everybody's biggest game and if we lose it's the first thing on ESPN, sportscenter. Every time I lost ever, if it wasn't at home, the court is gettin' stormed so you have that mentality of your everybody's biggest game there. Then just landin' on the Warriors which is crazy and I got there when they went to 3 straight chips, they had won 2 so it was turnin' to like "we're tired of seein' these guys dominate the league". So my 2 years there everybody was tryna knock us off, the media was tryna find any little thing to talk about. If Klay missed Steph on one possession they're talkin' about it on TV and the internet the next day. You know how it is when a team wins a lot, the Spurs got it, Lakers got it, the Bulls got it as we just saw so the Warriors were goin' through that and I caught it on the backend when people were really tired of seein' the Warriors in the finals and winnin' and stuff. So that was fun, obviously cause like at Duke we got everybody's best shot on a nightly basis so we couldn't take a night off, and obviously being here with the Lakers I grew up a Lakers fan so I know how much love they get and I also know how much, I don't wanna say hate but dislike.
Tyler: No no it's hatred, it's some hatred out there. Yeah.
Coley: Listen, i'm in Boston right now. It's hate!
Quinn: Yeah.
Tyler: Most definitely *laughs*
Quinn: Against Boston growin' up, I remember those Sacramento games *shakes head*. Man I remember the Phoenix wars, just so many generations have dealt with it. The Detroit Pistons and there's just so many franchises who have had wars with the Lakers for many years, so to be here now obviously being on the Lakers you're gonna get that and being on a good Lakers team you're gonna get that as well and also being on a team with LeBron you're gonna get it too, but you're also gonna get way, way, way more love so that's the part that's the best for sure.
Tyler: You ever think that you're the common denominator here, Quinn? You go to these teams, people don't like Duke. You go to the Warriors, they don't like the Warriors. You go to the Lakers, what is it about Quinn Cook man? What are you doin' to these teams?
Quinn: I ain't gon' lie like I grew up in Georgetown, in Maryland territory.
Tyler: MMM
Coley: *nods*
Quinn: So goin' to Duke was like goin' against the grain but when I got to Duke it kinda like turned
Coley: *laughs*
Quinn: I ain't tryna say i'm like a savior or nothin' but
Coley: You just said it! *laughs*
Tyler: No, I heard you, you just said it. No we heard it loud and clear *shakes hand*
Quinn: You think of Duke players in the past you think of
Coley: Mercer! *laughing*
Quinn: Nah not even that just
Tyler: *cracks up laughing*
Quinn: You think everyone comes from a great family, a great background.
Tyler: *nods* right.
Quinn: You have this stereotype of Duke players, take charges, go crazy over-
Tyler: Scrappy, heads up.
Quinn: Yeah, yeah when I got there we was playin' like Justin Bieber before the game, Miley Cyrus before the game. By the time I left they was playin' Lil Durk, Shy Glizzy, Chief Keef, Meek and coach let us be ourselves and it was just fun. I saw people, like when you think of Duke you think of 4 year guys and guys have to graduate and stuff like that but after Kyrie, I mean obviously they had a lot of one and done's before but after Kyrie it was just one and done, one and done, one and done. It was just cool to come to Duke and it was just fun when I was there, we had a lot of fun, Coach K let us be ourselves and man it was fun. But, to answer your question when I get to these teams I just try to just bring energy to the team and have fun with it.
Coley: Did Coach K ever threaten to take your sweatpants because you guys lost by 2 to Florida State or anything like that?
Quinn: I mean he's taken our practice jersey's and stuff, he's kicked us out the locker room. He's probably done that once a season when I was there when we had a bad loss or somethin', all our clothes is packed up.
Tyler: *laughing*
Quinn: We have nothin' in our lockers. I remember my sophomore year we lost to Miami, we're number 1 in the country, we lost to them by like 25 or 30, they was smackin' the floor against us. It was a tough loss but-
Tyler: *laughing*
Coley: Oh no
Quinn: when we got back all our stuff was gone but we couldn't wear anything Duke like we couldn't wear anything Duke, we couldn't wear our sweats, we couldn't wear our jersey's. We had to practice in white tee's and that's how we finished the year because after that we got rollin', that was the motivation we needed and we didn't wear jersey's for the rest of the year before the game. Coach K does a lot of motivational things like that.
Tyler: Now you're a 4 year guy, so your first and second year you see that but as a Junior, Senior you see that are you tellin' the guys like "don't worry, he'll give em back. Everybody chill out, just come to practice on time and we'll get our jersey back in 2 games."?
Quinn: *smiling* yeah. Yeah I mean obviously because when you're a freshman you don't know.
Tyler: *nods* right
Coley: *nods* yeah
Quinn: I was trippin' and I had some great upperclassmen, Seth Curry, Ryan Kelly, Mason Plumlee, Miles Plumlee, Josh Harris so I had so many guys who I was very very close to so when that happened they'd say exactly what you said "don't worry, blah blah blah" and I would do the same thing as I got older but I remember my freshman year we had a 7 Am practice, tough practice. I don't even remember why but coach kicked us out, it was a quick one.
Tyler: *cracks up*
Coley: *laughing*
Quinn: It was a 7 o'clock practice so it's about 7:20, 7:25. So I take a shower, I get to the locker room i'm like "damn we off for the whole day! We good!". You know what i'm sayin'? I'm kinda happy, i'm like alright cool! *rubs hand in a birdman-esque fashion*
Tyler: Yeah we gotta lose more often! This is alright yeah.
Coley: *cracks up*
Quinn: You know what i'm talkin' bout, we are winnin' games, we good. Then i'm the only one like kinda happy, me and Austin Rivers walk into class and we get a text at like 8 o'clock *reading text* "be back for practice tonight, at 6 pm". I was so pissed, I was so mad! *shakes head*
Tyler: *laughing*
Coley: *laughing*
Tyler: I made plans coach! *throws hands up* I had a date! Now I gotta go get some shots up?
Quinn: I thought I was done for the day!
Tyler: Right!
Quinn: After that first couple times I got used to it.
Tyler: *nods*
Coley: What's the most hostile environment you've ever been in? Was it at Duke? Was it the NBA Finals? What's the most you were lookin' around like this is more than basketball right now?
Quinn: Hmm. *thinking* Obviously every time you play Carolina its hostile. When I played against Maryland my sophomore year in Maryland that was very hostile. In the pros? Obviously Cleveland, it gets so loud in there, it gets so loud in the Q. Toronto just the whole experience in the arena was somethin' but we couldn't go no where like *shakes head* hotel we get booed every time we go in the hotel.
Tyler: *cracks up laughing*
Quinn: Seriously like-
Tyler: I respect it though on their behalf you gotta respect it though.
Quinn: It was dope I mean like any time we would go outside our hotel even to go to dinner, if it was goin' to the 7-11 across the street we're gettin' booed.
Coley: They're ringin' you up booing you *thumbs down* *laughs*
Tyler: *stank face* *shakes head*
Quinn: The night before game 1 they set like fireworks off in the middle of the night, man it was crazy because we were goin' against a whole country man it was a fun couple, I don't know how long it lasted, 10 days maybe 2 weeks? It was fun though.
Tyler: Y'all didn't do any room service? Get any pizzas that got you all sick during the playoffs, nothing like that?
Quinn: Nah nah they was good sports, they showed us love through it all. They kept it strictly basketball, they'd talk they trash all in fun though nothing disrespectful but that's how Cleveland was too they were used to playin' against the Warriors so they were used to hostin' NBA Finals and stuff so they understood the camaraderie and the sportsmanship between the two but they was gonna talk they trash any chance they got and I appreciated that.
Coley: Have you been able to watch The Last Dance during quarantine?
Quinn: Yeah I watched it like the Super Bowl, every Sunday I would wake up like it was Christmas. Those 5 Sunday's was incredible for me.
Coley: Did you learn anything you didn't already know from it? Or what stood out to you watching all that?
Quinn: Yeah so I grew up being obsessed with Michael Jordan, I was watchin' it and I would call out like I knew in my head "they're bout to show this play" "they're bout to show this interview" "Mike's gonna answer this" so that's how obsessed I am with Michael Jordan. What I learned was a lot, I learned a lot. I didn't know the beef really between Krause and Phil
Tyler: Everybody!
Coley: Yeah.
Quinn: Yeah everybody and how much the owner and the president had in that, at the end when he admitted to saying that he wanted to bring Phil back for that last year after he said "you know you guys can go 82-0, Phil's not comin' back"
Tyler: *shaking head*
Coley: *shaking head*
Quinn: I remember watchin' game 1 of the '97 finals when Jordan hit the shot to win and I remember game 6 of '98 of the NBA Finals but livin' it like really understanding it, really knowing it. I felt deprived when they won and never really got a chance to defend it and go for 4 in a row so I would of been sick if I was an NBA fan and a basketball fan knowing that happened and now 20 years later we gettin' those in depth interviews and really learning what was going on. That's something I learned as well.
Coley: Someone who strives to be in the film making industry or around it, when you see a 10 part documentary like that, what does that do to your brain?
Quinn: That's amazing, I mean i've always been a fan of just documentaries anyway and sports documentary. There's nothing better in the world to me than a sports documentary, like I said me and my partner like any documentary that comes out we're always talkin' during it and i'm asking questions but to have that come out when our's came out it was just like perfect timing for me just to see the transitions and everything. You know a 10 part series, how much time they put in, just to have all the footage in the archives that we never saw because like I said i've seen everything Michael Jordan like I grew up on Michael Jordan, His Airness, Michael Jordan playground, Come Fly With Me. All that stuff and so to see that behind the scenes footage and all the stuff we never saw was incredible man. Those guys did a phenomenal job.
Coley: Well that makes me think because every sport there always seems to be like "oh yeah here's Bill Belichick and Bill Parcells talking about some random play against the Browns from 1988" like they always have that. So like as a player, especially when you play with all these championship caliber teams are there cameras we don't see constantly filming you guys?
Quinn: Yeah for sure *slight laugh*
Tyler: *cracks up*
Coley: *laughing*
Tyler: You're probably just used to it. It's probably just happened for you since you were like 14 though, you probably don't even notice 'em anymore.
Quinn: I mean to be honest yeah. When I was at Dematha we had a show follow us for two years, we had like a show. It started for me then, obviously then Warriors and now the Lakers *shakes head* yeah there's cameras everywhere, you just get numb to it really.
Coley: So like 15 years from now there might be somethin' from the Warriors or from this years Lakers and you're like "ah I forgot I said that to Javale McGee, like I wish I hadn't!"
Quinn: Yeah I mean I think that's the dope part like
Coley: Yeah same!
Quinn: Cause I know when I was younger, I wasn't recordin' anything. I wish I had more pictures of me from when I was playin' AAU or videos from County. These kids now they record everything, they have phones and stuff like that, 30 years from now they'll still have that. So i'm glad i'm part of franchises and part of teams that are highly documented so I can watch with my kids and my grandkids 40 years from now and relive the past a little bit
Tyler: Talkin' The Last Dance got me thinkin' about the Warriors a little bit so i'm just imagine Bob Meyers gathering everybody in a room and telling you guys that no matter what happens Steve Kerr is not coming back. You could go 82-0 and Steve Kerr is just not coming back and how that would be received now but apparently back then people were just like "hey he's the GM what can you do!"
Quinn: That's wild. *shaking head*
Tyler: That's chaos!
Quinn: That's wild, that wasn't the brightest move...
Tyler: No!
Coley: No!
Quinn: People are human, people's pride get in the way, people go through things and I don't know but I wish they would of kept it together and couldn't never see a GM doin' that today. Even though Jerry Krause was a hell of a GM, he put those teams together.
Coley: He was.
Tyler: Great GM, yup.
Quinn: Yup.
Tyler: Has it inspired you to like listen to any R&B or swing any baseball bats? Smoked any cigars in the locker room, punched any teammates? How much has it really inspired you?
Quinn: Well I haven't really been able to leave the crib sooo uh
Tyler: Okay but listen *laughs*
Coley: When you get back you're gonna!
Tyler: Yeah *shadow boxes*
Quinn: *laughing* Funny thing, funny after whatever episode it was where he went to go play baseball, I believe it was 5 or 6 maybe, my manager lives here in LA and we went to get baseball gloves and we went to go throw a baseball around outside for a little bit just cause of Michael Jordan *laughs*
Tyler: *laughing* Be like Mike, yeah!
Coley: *laughs*
Quinn: I can say that.
Coley: What else have you been doing in Quarantine to keep some sanity? I know Jayson Tatum a couple weeks ago was like "I haven't even picked up a basketball since this all ended". Like have you been dribblin', doing anything or just sittin' in the crib?
Quinn: Yeah i'll go dribble outside, the Lakers put together some workout stuff so i'll work on that. Obviously our facility's back open 3 days a week so I can go in there and work out for an hour which is a big step for us. I picked up gaming, i've always been a big Madden player.
Tyler: Okay *nods*
Coley: *nods*
Quinn: No matter what, I played. I always had Grand Theft Auto obviously and every year I would buy Madden and 2k. I would play 2k just with my boys if they come in town, maybe if i'm bored i'll do a MyCareer but I never like really got in to it, but i'm really into 2k now.
Tyler: *laughs* Okay *nods*
Coley: *smiling*
Quinn: I started streaming and stuff, I bought all the equipment, I stream every night. I'm a serious Madden player like I have a league that I have professionals in there, I actually beat one of 'em but I ain't gon' say his name but i'm a high level Madden player so I picked up gaming during quarantine.
Coley: *nods* okay.
Tyler: I was gonna ask what level you playin' on but if you're beatin' professional gamers i'm gonna assume you play on all-madden or hall of fame.
Quinn: *insulted* Oh yeah, i'm an all madden competitive mode type of guy, i could play the game and we play with rules in the league you can't go for it you gotta punt. It's real and i'll give a shoutout to Joke my guy Joke he just won our tournament and he won the EA Madden tournament that was just on ESPN. He just won that so congratulations to him he just won the money for that. That's the guys i'm playin' with! He knocked me out the playoffs, we had a crazy game he beat me by 10 so imma okay Madden player, i'm an okay player.
Coley: Is he the dude who only runs the ball?
Quinn: Yeah yeah. I run, you pass, I win. That's his name, yeah you know him.
Coley: *cracks up laughing*
Quinn: He passes a little bit in our league, he's probably just workin' on his passing stuff in our league but yeah he doesn't have a quarterback on his Madden team he won the money with. I think he plays quarterback with Tress Way the punter and he just runs. That's the guy that won our league.
Tyler: That's absurd.
Coley: How infuriating is that? To know he's going to run it and there's nothing you can do.
Quinn: The thing with me is I got lucky, his main runningback Joe Mixon he got hurt so I had him usin' 2nd and 3rd string. So I was defending the run pretty well and he had to pass it, he beat me with two bombs.
Tyler: *disgusted* *throws head back* AHHHH
Quinn: *shaking head* To go up 14-7 when I was controllin' the game and that's what you think, you think he just runs but he can pass too and his defense is crazy. So I gotta keep playin' against him so I can get better.
Coley: I hope his defense is good, he's playin' this 1920's ass football it better be a good defense.
Quinn: Yeah he ain't passin' *shakes head*
Tyler: Wing T offense
Coley: Army Navy football yeah.
Quinn: He's runnin' the whole game.
Tyler: *shakes head* I mean I guess but you can't just go into punt block formation? Just send the house every single time and he's just like "nope gain of 6"
Quinn: He gon' audible that and go up top. He's good, he's really good, it's crazy the adjustments. It's crazy how real the video game is.
Tyler: Yeah *nodding*
Coley: *nods*
Quinn: It's crazy how real it is, I was tellin' my boy it's really like chess. They're makin' games harder to where you really gotta lock in to be a high level guy. I'm tryna get better at 2k now but Madden is my go to game.
Tyler: DC guy so you're a Redskin's fan i'm guessin'?
Quinn: Yessir.
Tyler: I'm sorry to hear that but do you play with them on Madden?
Quinn: Yeah I play with the 'Skins.
Tyler: Okay.
Quinn: If imma play for some money though imma play with the Seahawks.
Coley: *bursts out in laughter* smart
Tyler: Okay, i was gonna say there's bein' a fan and there's bein' stupid. So yeah you're smart.
Quinn: I play with the 'Skins a lot though, I got franchise mode with 'em *shakes head*. I play with my 'Skins a lot.
Coley: So do you like Haskins?
Quinn: Yeah I love Haskins, he's a Maryland guy as well. I love T-Mac, Guice obviously, our young guys, obviously Chase Young *throws hands up* We gotta good team.
Tyler: He's a DMV guy to isn't he? Chase Young.
Quinn: Yeah he went to Dematha, he went to my high school.
Tyler: Jesus! Will you guys stop? Will you let somebody else have some talent?
Quinn: It's our turn man, it's our turn.
Coley: It's DMV and it's Bessemer, Alabama. Those are the two places if you just draft both of them you're good.
Tyler: Per capita *laughs* yeah
Quinn: Yeah, yeah nah we just tryin' to get recognized that's it.
Coley: So let me ask you this and speak truthfully now. When you were a teenage and you see 16 year old Michael Beasley and 17 year old Kevin Durant, who did you think was gonna be better long term?
Quinn: They was both like the same...I mean not like the same but they was both doin' some crazy stuff.
Coley: That's what I mean.
Quinn: It was never like "who's gonna be better?" It was like "dang they both gonna be like the best players in the league". That's what they were doin' at 16 and 17 and they embraced each other like they would go on air and KD would say Mike's the best, better than anyone and Mike would say KD's the best which made it so much more better. That's how close they are, it was always we're gonna root for them the same and they gonna do amazing things at the next level for sure.
Coley: So it was never a "I think he's gonna be better"? It was always that close between them?
Quinn: Yeah for sure, they played a year apart and everything Kevin did one year Mike would do the next year. Kevin would in high school win whatever and then Mike would the next year. KD went to Texas and ripped college in half in the big-12, freshman of the year, national player of the year, #2 pick. Mike did the exact same thing the next year.
Tyler: He's like "I can do that!" Yeah
Coley: *laughing*
Quinn: Yeah it's crazy but people don't know they've been playing together since they was 9 years old, 8 years old.
Tyler: *shakes head* That's scary.
Quinn: Yeah so it was crazy to witness at the time and they're still close to this day and that's what makes it even better.
Tyler: You mentioned Durk earlier, playin' ball with Durk. We had him on not too long ago and he was talkin' some of the best ball playin' rappers. Who else have you played ball with cause Durk was in Staples Center shootin' with y'all wasn't he?
Quinn: Nah *shakes head*
Tyler: He had on the Lakers gear, he had on Jerry West uniform.
Coley:*turns away laughing due to long standing feud with Jerry West*
Quinn: Nah nah *smiling* We was in Atlanta, we was at Georgia Tech.
Tyler: Ah okay okay.
Quinn: But nah Durk is tough I hoop with him a lot. My brother is a college player like he scored 1,000 points and Durk killed him.
Tyler: *laughing loudly*
Quinn: So he's really really good, I hoop with Chris Brown, Quavo, The Game I haven't hooped with him but i've seen highlights and stuff. Those are 4 who really come to mind. Dave East plays, they said Dave East played with DC Assault.
Tyler: Oh wow I didn't know that.
Quinn: Yeah he went to Richmond and Towson or Loyala I believe, he played division 1 basketball so I bet he's still good as well.
Coley: Who told you they were nice and then, not so much *shakes head
Quinn: *laughs*
Tyler: Say his name. *laughs*
Coley: Someone came to mind.
Quinn: Wale
Coley: Oh no! *laughs*
Tyler: *cracking up with mighty chuckles*
Coley: A DMV brethren no!
Tyler: I was gonna say this is the first DC on DC shot i've seen taken, wow!
Quinn: That's my big bro, he been lookin' out for me since high school, middle school maybe but yeah..
Tyler: No game!
Quinn: He got a lil game, but he talked to where you think he boutta give you 40 but he might give you a nice lil 12, 15.
Tyler: Ahhh.
Coley: Okay.
Tyler: Yeah it's not bad
Quinn: Yeah he ain't sorry
Tyler: Right
Quinn: I just thought he was gon' be like
Tyler: Good yeah. *cracks up*
Quinn: *breaks down laughing*
Coley:*laughing mightly* Alright so be honest with us, how many pairs of Foamposites do you have in that apartment right now.
Quinn: Right now, 1.
Coley: OOooo.
Tyler: Must of just cleaned out?
Quinn: Nah we always movin' city to city so
Coley: Yeah they're heavy, they're tough to move.
Quinn: In my storage back home? Well I haven't bought some foams in a while but if we talkin' all my shoes, I got a lot. Maybe like 7 pair? *nonchalant shrug*
Coley: That feels light
Tyler: I was gonna say, that really means you got like 15 pair.
Quinn: It's light, that's definitely light. I stopped gettin' em but I still have 7 pair, that's just i've given so many away. Especially foams to my lil cousin, my lil cousin take all my shoes so he has all my shoes.
Coley: What is it with that shoe specifically in the DMV area? Like where did that connect come from?
Quinn: I don't know, I just noticed everybody wearin' em and i'm like "damn, them thangs is nice" so-
Tyler: I need 7 pairs!
Quinn: I wanna pair, I want a couple pairs and for me I used to hoop in 'em growin' up. So you can hoop in 'em, you can just wear em with jeans, you can do a lot with 'em.
Tyler: Commit crime *nods*
Coley: Yeah!
Tyler: Good crime shoe. *laughing*
Coley: *bursts up laughing*
Quinn: *breaks down laughing* I ain't touchin' on that
Coley: No no no you don't have to.
Quinn: Shout out to Penny Hardaway man.
Coley: Forever *nods*
Tyler: *laughs*
Coley: Have you seen the playoff stuff they've been projectin' comin' back, all the Orlando 1-16? Have you had a chance to look at that, do you have any thoughts on that?
Quinn: Yeah i've seen it, I think it'd be pretty cool. I think it'd be really cool for everybody to be on one campus, it'd feel like AAU all over again like at the world wide, the Milkhouse...and I think everybody grew up playin' AAU there, I know me I lost the national championship there when I was 10 and I haven't been back since.
Tyler: Mmm *shakes head*
Quinn: So that's a place i've always wanted to go back to and relive some memories, and just to go look at where I spent a lot of my childhood but the switch seedings as well I know the NBA's been talkin' about that even before this Corona Virus thing happened just to have the best 16 teams in the league, doesn't matter the conference and just play like that so I saw the little bracket the other day of how it'd look if they did it. It looked pretty cool, unique, somethin' new for the fans and for us and just to get back playin' will be a step forward.
Coley: Do you think you guys need a 4 or 5 game warmup before the tournament starts or are you ready to just get some practice?
Quinn: No no, you need a warmup, especially goin' in to playoffs.
Coley: Yeah.
Tyler: *nods* yeah
Quinn: It's different from getting ready for a regular training camp and season, preseason stuff like that because we have all summer to workout and get in shape, gyms are open and we have our routine. Now like you said, Jayson Tatum says he hasn't touched a basketball this entire time so we need a longer training camp just for guys to get back in the flow, and then you guys know but playoff basketball it's the highest level of basketball and people always say "load management and guys take games off during the regular season" but I haven't heard no load management ever in the playoffs. So you can't just be unable to hoop for 2-3 months and jump into a couple practices and then just jump right into playoff mode. That's not gonna happen so I think we definitely need a couple games to ramp up before you jump into the playoffs for sure.
Coley: Speak for all the Lakers here, do you guys feel a little bad that you have the much easier half of the bracket?
Quinn: Ummm I-
Coley: *looks on in curiosity with shit eating grin*
Quinn: I saw we would play Brooklyn first, right?
Coley: Yeah.
Quinn: Yeah I didn't see who was on either side I just saw were the number 2 seed in the whole thing but i'm guessin' Milwaukee's on the other side
Coley: Clippers.
Tyler: Clippers are on the other side.
Quinn: Damn! I mean
Coley: Yeah *laughs* real shame!
Tyler: *laughing* yeah you hate to see it!
Quinn: I guarantee you Houston's on our side.
Coley: Yeah.
Tyler: Houston is.
Quinn: Yeah I mean so it ain't gonna be no cakewalk either way. It ain't gonna be no cakewalk with any team, I mean Brooklyn just beat us our last game before we took off.
Coley: I'm sure you guys are real worried about Brooklyn, yes.
Quinn: Yeah but still, you still gotta go play the games and anything can happen.
Coley: For sure, for sure.
Quinn: That'd be cool to see, that'd be definitely cool to see. It'd be somethin' different for the league for sure.
Tyler: Goin' back to the film a little bit, you've got a degree in theater studies so what's your passion project? Like what's the one film, documentary or topic you'd like to cover?
Quinn: Not basketball?
Tyler: I mean it can be, it could be whatever you want. It's your passion.
Quinn: *big time stumped* That's a great question!
Tyler: *Head held high* Thank you!
Coley: Good job Tyler.
Quinn: I don't know, I don't know *shakes head*
Coley: Passionless Quinn Cook!
Tyler: *laughs*
Quinn: That's a hell of a question, I mean i'm passionate about music, i'm passionate about basketball, i'm passionate about *inaudible*. It's so many levels that i'm passionate about, just to put somethin' on a documentary or a movie it's a thing and very involved but you can do so much, but I definitely wanna do something that's near and dear to me...Nah that's something I didn't even think about.
Tyler: Somethin' to consider.
Coley: You've had nothing but time these last few months, I know you've been gaming but you could-
Quinn: He gave me the motivation though, that's something that I didn't really think about.
Tyler: Just give me an executive producer credit, that's it, that's it!
Quinn: I gotchu, I got you. You said that, what up. It's a lot of stuff though, for me to try and find a correlation between the athlete and the entertainer or somethin' *shrugs shoulders*
Tyler: Mmm *ponders*
Quinn: You know how we grow up, rappers wanna be hoopers, hoopers wanna be rappers we could do somethin' with that I mean I don't know.
Tyler: Lotta lanes yeah.
Quinn: It's a lot so I definitely need to really start brainstormin'
Coley: Now are you only wanting to be a behind the scenes guy or you tryna get that face in front of the camera too?
Quinn: So anytime I wanna be in front of the camera I wanna be like commentating.
Tyler: Okay! *nods*
Quinn: My dream job is to be Kenny Smith, like I wanna be Kenny Smith in 20 years.
Tyler: Okay.
Quinn: Was a great player, wasn't like the best player but was a great player respectively, won championships and he had the respect from everybody from players to coaches to everybody in the league. He's been on TV for 20 years just talkin' basketball and that's somethin' I wanna do. I wanna be Kenny Smith in 20 years and I can do my other stuff. Actin', i'm not really into acting for me I tried it in college, I didn't really like it. I wasn't really good at memorizing lines.
Tyler: okay *laughing immensely*
Quinn: Obviously if the opportunity presents itself i'm not opposed to it but I would rather be behind the scene.
Tyler: Now I do hate that we have to clip it and put out a promo of you saying that you wanted to be like a UNC player but you did it to yourself Quinn. You did it to yourself
Quinn: Who did I?
Tyler: Kenny Smith!
Quinn: Ohhh
Tyler: Yeahh. You said you wanted to be Kenny Smith!
Coley: Jordan guy, Kenny Smith guy!
Quinn: Grant Hill, i'll say Grant Hill.
Coley: *laughs*
Tyler: There we go, good save *laughs*
Quinn: I'll say Grant Hill, nah Kenny Smith's my guy. He's always like looked out for me and gave me words anytime I saw him. I know his nephew so he used to facetime his nephew and check up on me and stuff and give me great words, and Grant Hill he's been my mentor since I was 16, my mom and his mom are like best friends, his dad helps my mom out a lot and Grant is always helping me, on and off the floor just understanding everything so he's one of my closest mentors.
Coley: You just had basketball royalty surrounding you since you were born it sounds like.
Quinn: Umm yeah just bein' born in DC and raised in PG that's just basketball, that's the sport. We have so many great athletes especially football and boxing but basketball is the sport. If you're good at basketball then you can kinda make your way in the city but just growing up and being around Nolan and KD and Mike I was always like they little brother like Draymond said it in a quote last year and that was real interesting. All the relationships I had and even with players way older than me were because I was always around KD, Nolan, Mike so they always saw me as their little brother. So when I would go to their events and games, if it was a famous player or a player I looked up to I would go up there and speak to them like "hey i'm Quinn, thank you so much for motivating me" like I was always one of those kids, it didn't matter if you made the league or not I was always one of those kids who was a die hard fan so I would just show my appreciation for them and as i'd start travelin' i'd meet new people and meet new players and as I started to get older just bein' placed around certain players, we just kept a relationship so yeah i've been lucky in that aspect of just havin' access to a lot of guys obviously I grew up idolizing.
Tyler: Last question I have for you, then we'll let you outta here Quinn. You spent a day with GQ and this is somethin' that I ask everybody. Who is the best dressed player on the Lakers? It can be yourself.
Quinn: Best dressed?
Tyler: Best dressed.
Quinn: *thinking* I'll say AD.
Coley: Really!
Tyler: Okay, okay.
Quinn: *nodding*
Tyler: Now who's the worst dressed?
Quinn: Ummm *thinking* Danny Green.
Tyler: Ohhhh *disgusted* why? Describe Danny Green's style to us.
Quinn: He's real chill, he's like conservative as a teammate, as a friend, he's real chill, he goes with the flow, he's his own. But, he'll switch it up with his styles and he keeps us on our toes, it's no better feelin' than gettin to Staples Center it's me, AD, Avery Bradley, Bron and Dudz and we just wait on Danny. "Let's see what he gon' throw on today" "Let's see what he's wearin' today". He always keeps us guessin' so I wouldn't say he's the worst, i'd say we look forward to seein' what he throws on every night. Him and Kuz for sure.
Coley: Oh boy!
Tyler: That's what I was gonna say, I thought it was gonna be Kuz yeah.
Quinn: That's the popular answer but those 2 keep us on our toes for sure. It's a fun environment that we have.
Coley: I think you just said Danny Green cause you're giving too many UNC guys too much love recently.
Quinn: See ahh *scratches head* and Danny still owes me some money man-
Tyler: Uh Oh
Quinn: -you know we swept them boys this year. He still owe me some money, I still ain't never seen him to collect but it's all good.
Tyler: Paypal, Venmo there's ways for you to get your scratch.
Quinn: Right *laughing* Nah that's my guy man, that's my guy.
Coley: Quinn Cook, future commentator, current Basketball player/executive producer. Thank you very much for joining us today. Can't wait to see actual basketball again soon and very soon.
Quinn: Thank you, preciate y'all man it's been fun.
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[Intro]
Juice time, yuh yuh, Juice time, yuh yuh...for the year 2G the rap game change for one name...Jewelz aim to slain anything on this plane...remains are found when the best kept secret get heated...you went platinum with a ghost writer so in the game you won you cheated.
Coley: You know?
Tyler: Without a doubt, easily, easily bud.
Coley: If it's anyone else, news to me.
Tyler: Yeah switchin' bodies, that'd be pretty good.
Coley: And you die soon.
Tyler: Get some peanut butter before you go.
Coley: *laughs* oh boy, Youtube, i'm gonna fight YouTube with my fists.
Tyler: Uh oh.
Coley: Yeah they told me the fighting at the end of superhero shit.
Tyler: mmm
Coley: I guess that was like akin to uploading the entire Olympics. They were like "can't do that!" I was like "okay"
Tyler: Listen, everyone knows those two things you can't touch.
Coley: So I trimmed that out and I reupload it and then it hits me for the Tom and Jerry stuff and i'm like "why didn't you tell me that the first time!"
Tyler: I saw it up, I was like I bet it's for the Tom and Jerry. We probably shouldn't of led off with that, very easy to catch. But regardless yeah
Coley: Listen whatever algorithm they have catches everything.
Tyler: So I see!
Coley: Everything. It's preposterous honestly how good it is.
Tyler: It's a little scary.
Coley: Very, cause they're not even audio so it's like how is this computer seeing that.
Tyler: Computer's like "nobody watches Tom and Jerry for more than 3 minutes, red flag! Something's up, these guys are plotting a crime."
Coley: I didn't much care for it. So I don't even know what it looks like right now *looking for youtube video*
Tyler: When it tells you, does it say you have to remove minutes 45-52 or it's just "copyright infringement-batman"
Coley: So luckily, there's a button that allows it to just trim out that specific segment built into YouTube.
Tyler: Ahhh, that's helpful enough at least.
Coley: Yeah and they have different types of violations too so it's like channel impact: Not affected, visibility: blocked
Tyler: Done, canceled.
Coley: Yeah, monetization: Ineligible. Alright.
Tyler: Well then let us put the shit back up, what's the
Coley: That's what I mean, if i'm not tryna make money off it what's the issue?
Tyler: Just draw your own crudely done Tom and Terry, the cat and mouse that actually hate each other!
Coley: I could see if I was pumping it in from my own computer feed. We're watching it on YouTube!
Tyler: Sure.
Coley: *laughing*
Tyler: I remember thinking, like when I did the old podcast soundcloud would take down pretty much every intro song I had and I was like if they spent this money on keeping soundcloud alive, maybe they wouldn't be asking for money every 12 months!
Coley: Yeah.
Tyler: Your algorithm, billion dollar industry soundcloud.
Coley: I'll never understand, it's not for me to understand but i'll never understand it.
Tyler: Mmm
Coley: I was thinking about it Quinn Cook's played for only hateable teams.
Tyler: Pretty much! He's a still a likeable guy that's how you know he's gotta be a really decent guy at heart.
Coley: It's crazy.
Tyler: He just comes on and trashes us the whole time. I'm like "that adds up, no that makes sense".
Coley: Basketball Reference just stopped working, alright there we go.
Tyler: Have you watched the In the Water doc
Coley: Theirs?
Tyler: Yeah the PG County one.
Coley: No.
Tyler: It's worth a watch, 52 minutes as well so
Coley: MMMmmm
Tyler: My type of documentary. It went into a lot more than I thought it would, it was very good.
Coley: We'll did you ever think about making it 10 parts and just pumping your own tires a bunch?
Tyler: Yeah yielding a baseball bat? Smoking a cigar?
Coley: Yeah is your pregame ritual drinking several beers, playing the piano
Tyler: and listening to unreleased R&B.
Coley: *laughs*
Tyler: It's that new Bryson Tiller.
Coley: Is that the equivalent because i've never even heard of the guy he was talking about?
Tyler: Umm, nah Lattimore was a big enough deal to be sending shit to Michael Jordan, he had a couple hits. He had a pretty good run.
Coley: That sounds like Tiller then.
Tyler: Nah listen, LeBron listens to everybody so you can't even do that with LeBron anymore
Coley: No
Tyler: If Jordan's listening to you? If you even have access to send Jordan stuff you a big deal.
Coley: Yeah cause that was very much like mail,
Tyler: Yeah!
Coley: You know that wasn't like send me those files.
Tyler: Oh yeah nah it was a physical cassette tape i'm sure. Yeah when was Lattimore's run? Late 90's? Yeah 96-98 mhm.
Coley: So just the whole time Jordan was three-peating the second time Lattimore was on top.
Tyler: Mhmm.
Coley: Alright.
Tyler: And it's good music but it's the most R&B that you could ever have, like there's no Kenny Lattimore song that woulda had Jordan nodding like that. I'll say that much. Not a one so I.
Coley: *laughs* listen that's how Mike gets down!
Tyler: Even Lattimore tweeted he was like "damn I sent those to everybody I didn't know Mike was gonna listen"
Coley: He's like "that stuff wasn't even good"
Tyler: "Yeah it stunk!"
Coley: *laughs* Jordan just *mimes bob*
Tyler: Yeah "1998 I sent Jordan an advanced copy of my From the Soul of Man album, who knew days like this was his pregame hype song though." Yeah that wasn't even the album like he broke onto the scene with The Self Title, From the Soul of man was the next one. Didn't do as well outside of Michael Jordan's ears but still Lattimore had some hits, i'm glad he's doin well.
Coley: I'm sure he caught a couple dozen pennies off of some streams after The Last Dance.
Tyler: Oh! He's a billionaire now, yeah...Kenny Lattimore, I don't even know who'd be the equivalent now. I'm trying to think of somebody who's good but just haven't heard in a while.
Coley: Frank Ocean?
Tyler: Not that big.
Coley: Okay.
Tyler: Little bit smaller than Ocean.
Coley: Trey Songz!
Tyler: But not a bad guy!
Coley: *laughs* we don't-
Tyler: Yeahh, listen if he's hanging out with Michael Jordan he's gotta be a swell guy.
Coley: *laughing* Him and Bujar
Tyler: Slim Boulder, all the guys!
Coley: *laughs*
Tyler: Days like This, imma pull up Days like This so it'll take down this stream too.
Coley: *laughing*
Tyler: *laughs* they'll be like "no we're fine with Lattimore". Here we go, oh it's on the best of Kenny Lattimore *plays music* This was Days like This, this is what Jordan was listening to. *R&B Music plays*
Coley: He has Bart Simpson in the studio, yeah *laughs*
Tyler: *laughs* Jordan was nodding fast as hell just for no reason because nobody else could hear.
Coley: That was maybe the most similar he and LeBron have ever been.
Tyler: Jordan's instagram would be great.
Coley: *laughs* But he doesn't let you hear it.
Tyler: "Mike there's no sound!" I know.
Coley: Yeah *laughs*
Tyler: *laughs* You'll hear it when it comes out and not a day before.
Coley: Yeah like "wait till you hear this", we hear it we're like what track even was that?
Tyler: Uhnun, they just pipe in the Bulls intro song over. They're like "it's the only song we have license, we had to put it over it Mike"
Coley: Jordan just one of the most graceful athletes of all time come to find out just has no rhythm whatsoever.
Tyler: Zero.
Coley: *laughs*
Tyler: "They said I couldn't dance!" "I didn't take it personal" *laughs*
Coley: *laughs* "They got me there"
Tyler: Yeah, broken clock twice a day, Michael Jordan couldn't dance. Dancing with the Stars, Michael Jordan just trying to conquer the only thing he was unable to conquer. The Watootsie.
Coley: *laughs* he's like "and a onea and a threea" like "NO!"
Tyler: Dammit Mike! He's like "aahhhe I got two left feet!" Cuts to Horace Grant who's just a classically trained Ballroom dancer for some reason. "I bet you wish you had some of that don't ya Mike, hmmhhhhm."
Coley: *laughs* he's like "I can't figure out the box!"
Tyler: You see Mike's feet on the ground, over left one two. Horace is like "you'll never get it!"
Coley: He's just falling down.
Tyler: And he just punches Horace right in the face! Yeah.
Coley:*laughs* that sounded like an inspired Craig David.
Tyler: More American Craig David, yeah I can see that. Lemme check, Lattimore is he even from Chicago or Carolina or anything? DC, no! I'm just trying to figure out where these-
Coley: That's why he went to the Wizards.
Tyler: It's gotta be. I'm just tryna figure out where these even cross. Like we find out "ohh okay Kenny Lattimore used to play a little pro golf, makes sense. Oh he's a great dominoes player? Okay I know how he and Jordan met"
Coley: I mean he's gotta be some sort of gambler.
Tyler: "Hey Mike, I bet you won't listen to my new album"....."You could say I took it personally"
Coley: *laughs* "Learned it front to back out on the elbow!"
Tyler: "Mike i'll tell you this, you will never ever make my album go diamond'..."I took it personally, I made it go double diamond!"
Coley: "I got 10 million copies myself, cash!"
Tyler: "Mike no, no but my world tour's about to start!"..."I'll buy every ticket! That's what i'll do."
Coley: *laughs* "i'll be at every single show"
Tyler: You're in Prague and it's just only Jordan just eyeballin' Kenny Lattimore up on stage.
Coley: He's like "this was great, the first 400 times but"
Tyler: "Play Days like This! Play Days like This!" Nah I was gonna ask him about that I read he came to Georgia to get away during Quarantine and I was like "and you came here!?!?"
Coley: *laughs* he's like "yeah I saw people were out and about havin' the best of time!"
Tyler: He stayed for a couple weeks and then he went back to LA. I'm like that's a BAD sign.
Coley: For him or Georgia?
Tyler: For him, it's been a horrible sign for us but for him to be like, actually you know what i'd rather go to the much cleaner city of Los Angeles. There's also a lot of super cool Beas in the documentary I think you'll enjoy. Lotta Beas.
Coley: Well yeah they gotta tell the story. Tell the story.
Tyler: They tell it right, I was like listen if they don't have super cool beas...and there he was, the coolest.
Coley: Is it like him talking?
Tyler: Oh yeah!
Coley: Oh boy!
Tyler: It's Michael Beasley sitting down for interviews.
Coley: *laughs* That has to be the only time that's happened.
Tyler: It's the only time i've ever seen Michael Beasley sitting down not on a bench.
Coley: Tryna think if there was ever like a him and Bill Walker interview comin' out of K-State?
Tyler: The only ones I ever saw were like pregame, postgame or the ones like "we're here at the McDonalds All American camp with Michael Beasley" like one of those interviews.
Coley: Yeah
Tyler: But no, cause it looks like it's taking everything in him to stay sitting down.
Coley: *laughs*
Tyler: Like he's giving good analysis and everything, he's just jumpy, like i'd like to stand up and say these things.
Coley: Yeah if all's the same with you guys...Yeah Beasley *exhales*
Tyler: Yeah he and Durant were just on all the teams like "yeah i'd hear about a game somewhere and i'd call Kevin Durant and we'd go play". He's like "we won a lot!"...I bet so! 16 year old Beasley and 17 year old Kevin Durant, i'd say so!
Coley: I would be furious, furious if I was like running a court for a while and I had just won 4 in a row and it's like alright who's next? And you just see Durant.
Tyler: Oh come on! It's one of those was it Milhouse and Bart or was it Martin and Bart, when the baseball players keep walkin' by?
Coley: It was Wiggum.
Tyler: Uh yeah Ralph, Ralph. "I'll take Wade Boggs"...Dammit! "Alright, i'll take Kearney!" *laughs* "Mr. Clemens would you like to play!?"..."You've got yourself a player!" *laughs*
Coley: He hops the fence *laughing*
Tyler: "I guess i'll go with Dolph!"
Coley: *laughs* How bout you Kevin Durant? And he's like "ah I suppose"
Tyler: There's stories like that pretty much, he's like guys just sittin' down pickin' teams. Beasley, Durant, Quinn Cook, all 3 of the Grant brothers who played in the NBA like oh boy! Jerami Grant's like "No in high school I was the 7th man on my team!"...I was like that's terrifying.
Coley: Yeah it's like "Thank god the subs are in, ahhh he's jumped over everyone"
Tyler: Yeah put in the second unit...Horace Grant's Newphews! *laughs*
Coley: *laughing* I'm tryna see what AAU team this was, basketball elite?
Tyler: They talked one, DC Assault. I don't know if he was on that team, that was just one of the ones they mentioned.
Coley: He went to Oak Hill
Tyler: Mhmm
Coley: Yeah he's had quite the life
Tyler: Oh yeah.
Coley: *mumbling profanity* I mean he played too recently for his AAU team to not be readily available.
Tyler: They don't have a Wikipedia page?
Coley: That's what i'm sayin'...DC Assault?
Tyler: Yeah they mentioned the Assault, thats the only one but another one they started traveling places. They used to have an all star game where people around the world would come and play only the DMV guys and the DMV guys would routinely win. I'm like why would you travel? Just let them come to you. Just keep whooping them!
Coley: The first thing is "The rise and fall of DC Assault details the Billion dollar man, the godfather of DC basketball was also a Cocaine kingpin. Curtis Malone's two businesses AAU basketball and drugs!"
Tyler: They covered that in the doc as well.
Coley: I figured as much. This isn't as fun of a story but in Boston AAU when I first started playing when i was like 13, there was one team that was like the team in the state. I think it was the Breakers, Boston Breakers, and I ended up my very first tournament one of the local coaches happened to coach this program so he brought me to the tryout. He didn't even pick me, a different coach picked me, I was fine with that, so my very first tournament I don't know any of these people i'm just playin' and we go to the championship. I'm like sick this is nasty, we got our fuckin' doors blown off in the championship by this team. I was like "okay so not as easy as I once anticipated"
Tyler: "Wow! Step 1 AAU, Step 2 ?, Step 3 NBA!?, I was this close"
Coley: Honestly that tournament too, it was probably the best I ever played in AAU, I think I was averaging like the 4 games we played before the finals. I don't know what I had in the finals, I just remember losing and never quite losing like that before in my life in basketball.
Tyler: Or since then really, i've never taken a whooping like that!
Coley: Oh no I lost way worse *laughs*
Tyler: Oh with Mush and Dana?
Coley: *laughs* No no no, we never got shelled on that team which made it all the more infuriating.
Tyler: Yeah
Coley: *laughs*
Tyler: 10 point losses
Coley: Yeah! Like "we got our teeth kicked in, they had two 6'7 guys who were windmilling nothing I can do about that!" but no we lost by 5 because no one started trying till the second half.
Tyler: Double OT
Coley: Yeah uhh no we lost to one team from Georgia that they played 4 guys on defense the whole game and they would rotate who stood at half court to get the outlet pass and windmill dunk, dealers choice!
Tyler: Listen you get the ball, you make the rules.
Coley: They beat us by a cool 35 and that was without really trying
Tyler: You'll go watch some of those games and you'll see a good one, then the next one it's like "oh boy. 16-2 early, everybody goes and gets some popcorn"
Coley: Yeah there's nothing worse than immediately knowing that it was not your game
Tyler: *laughs* Oh boy, "only 3 and a half quarters left!"
Coley: *laughs*
Tyler: They're talking bout the dealer guy, before they even got to it they were talkin' to a guy and they were like "say what you will about him, he knew how to market!"...I was like anytime you go with the "say what you will about somebody, somethin' bad's bout to happen"
Coley: Yeah it's never like "say what you will about Mother Teresa" it's never that.
Tyler: *laughs* yeah, "Say what you will about him, he's the best person i've ever met I have no"...once they said that I was like oh boy, drugs? Oh okay, it could be a lot worse than drugs. That's not great but-
Coley: DC, cocaine is that even illegal anymore?
Tyler: They probably arrested him for not sellin' it!
Coley: *laughs* for gettin' outta the game yeah.
Tyler: I remember they said John Thompson used to like tell drug dealers not to come to practice, like "stop doing this, leave Alonzo Mourning alone!"
Coley: *laughs*
Tyler: "What's your problem!? Go sell drugs!"
Coley: *laughing* Be an adult, go!
Tyler: Yeah for once! Raefel Edmunds
Coley: Do I have to do everything around here?
Tyler: They were like "yeah okay" then they come back and he's like "how many times do I have to teach you this lesson old man!"
Coley: He just starts handing them bails of Coke. Go! Pedal!
Tyler: Yeah! Get! *laughs*
Coley: *laughing* Oh boy. *laughs* John Thompson keeping the DC coke game alive is very funny.
Tyler: And the basketball scene alive man, you talk about a guy wearing two hats.
Coley: That's what it is in DC, you can't just do one.
Tyler: Mhm
Coley: You get to do both.
Tyler: Speaking of, they get to some Bias too, that was rough.
Coley: Ahhh jeez.
Tyler: Mhm
Coley: You might as well, that's the beginning I assume.
Tyler: No, that's why I was like "oh maybe they wo-, no here it is, yes."
Coley: Who's like the first big hooper to come out of the DMV?
Tyler: Bias was the first super duper star.
Coley: Okay that's what I was thinking, but who was the first in the scene really?
Tyler: I'm tryna think cause it talked about like how basketball got to DC then it turned into basically a lot of people playin' then it was somebody in the 70's. There was a couple of older cats it was like yeah they made the league and they were the guy to look up to and then it was Bias and it was like no he was gonna be our guy and uh...I forget what happened.
Coley: Yeah...I moved-
Tyler: I must of been textin' during that part of the doc.
Coley: There was during The Last Dance, there was reports that i'd never heard before that after he retired the first time, so like '94-
Tyler: Mhm
Coley: the Celtics offered at least one first round pick just to talk to him to try and convince him to unretire.
Tyler: I'm guessing the Bulls said no?
Coley: If i'm the Bulls like you already own his rights, just call him and be like "hey, the Celtics are gonna call you just ignore em"
Tyler: Yeah, take the call. Don't say a word. Jordan's like, got it!
Coley: What's the most you would give up just to give him your best pitch?
Tyler: Dantley, Adrian Dantley. That's who it was, he was the first big guy.
Coley: Ah.
Tyler: Just to talk? I mean listen we've seen first round picks go for coaches.
Coley: right
Tyler: To negotiate with Jordan? 1 and another protected one, I don't have a problem with it
Coley: I don't think they had protected picks in '94
Tyler: Listen i'm surprised somebody was even like "hey we just wanna talk to him", Stern was like "what? no, no no no. there'll be none of this". Yeah one for sure and if he comes back completely unprotected, take your choice.
Coley: Oh yeah if he's coming at all, several...like i'd give 5.
Tyler: Oh no 5? That's absurd, no.
Coley: *laughs*
Tyler: Come on, let's not be silly Mick.
Coley: Dino Raja and a 2nd.
Tyler: *laughs* yeah Dana Baros or a 1st round pick, they can take their druthers but not both.
Coley: I'm just picturing me in '94 being like "no Baros is a local kid he's gonna do great things here, we will not be trading him" *cracks up*
Tyler: "That Jordan guy's in the past, we're gonna trade 22 for 32? That's not the kinda math i'm on"
Coley: *laughs* There was someone else they were trying to get for to pair him with in Boston.
Tyler: Jordan?
Coley: Yeah like the plan was like "alright if we get Jordan we'll go get like the other hall of famer" I can't remember who it was but it was someone really good and it's like why didn't you just get him?
Tyler: Kareem Abdul Jabbar, yeah.
Coley: Yeah! Like what was the hold up there.
Tyler: I feel like the only move woulda been like, okay as soon as Kraus and Phil Jackson were on the outs. Okay, here's a first round pick we just want Phil Jackson we'll let Phil Jackson do the rest, cause if this is the only guy Jordan'll play for then he's the one I need. He'll do my negotiating
Coley: Yeah
Tyler: But no dice
Coley: Could you imagine how annoying i'd be if 23 Jordan was out, that's all i'd wear is a Jordan Celtics jersey.
Tyler: Ahh....Is 23 even available? What number would he have to be? *laughing*
Coley: No! *laughing*
Tyler: Number 96!
Coley: I'll have you know 45 is though!
Tyler: 45 is taken or available?
Coley: No, well right now...it will be retired because Romeo wears it.
Tyler: Sure.
Coley: Was it Satch Sanders was he 23?
Tyler: Probably, that's who Jordan got it from. The Satch man.
Coley: When you google Celtics retired numbers for some reason 23 comes up first which I know we've had more important players...Frank Ramsey, of course!
Tyler: Ahhh. *laughs* duh!
Coley: Kentucky's very own.
Tyler: Oh yea, wonder which number Jordan would be...52? Doesn't have quite the ring.
Coley: Uh 21-25 are all retired so he couldn't even of gone like close.
Tyler: *laughs* I'm tellin' you if he's 29 he doesn't make a single all star game.
Coley: No.
Tyler: Washes out.
Coley: 35, I love how Reggie Lewis's mom was like we'll take 35 down Kevin Durant if you come to Boston please.
Tyler: That's tough and Durant said no, what a bad guy.
Coley: *cracking up*
Tyler: "Nah you can leave it up there" *laughs*
Coley: yeah *laughs*...Well I think he woulda just worn 7 anyways cause that's what he's got in Brooklyn.
Tyler: I don't know, family of Dee Brown woulda been like "no no no there'll be none of this!". Jaylen'll be in Washington so 7'll be up for grabs.
Coley: Enough, I think he's done enough to have it retired already.
Tyler: Listen if 1,2,3,5,9,11,15 sure! sure!
Coley: No 9's Wanamaker!
Tyler: Like the Warriors are retiring 35, I get it but he played 2 and a half years. If you're doin' that then anybody's up for grabs.
Coley: It was a dominant 2 and a half years though.
Tyler: Very strong, I mean it was 2 rings out of 3. It's not 3 out of 3 but-
Coley: No, no it sure isn't
Tyler: I guess. They should retire Steph's too, that's just my take. Cowards!
Coley: Ehhhh, they're searching for Quinn.
Tyler: Okay!
Coley: People tweeting me the episode got taken down off YouTube, oh I know! I know!
Tyler: I had Celtics fans in my mentions, they celebrating conference finals losses man
Coley: Nooo!
Tyler: It's rough out here for y'all! Me, I hated to see it.
Coley: I'm constantly disappointed by this fanbase
Tyler: I gotta say man, I expect this from the Magic or somebody. This is expansion team behavior "we made it to Eastern Conference Finals Game 7" Okay? Where y'all put the banner for that at?
Coley: They're talkin' bout the loss to the Cavs?
Tyler: Yeah
Coley: What a game to not be proud of. Like what
Tyler: Yeah, NBACentral said who's the more skilled scorer between Tatum and Booker? And somebody said Booker put 70 against the #1 seed when he was 20 years old and the Celtics fan in question said "and lost that same game, give me the kid who led his team to game 7 of the Easter Conference Finals when he was 20!"...like he lost that game! That's the point you made?
Coley: Yeah if Tatum like gently lays that ball up instead of dunks and pushes LeBron exactly 0 inches maybe they win that game *laughs*
Tyler: Perhaps and if so, would of been a great response as is no dice.
Coley: *laughs* Yeah if we had won that game and then lost in like 5 to the Warriors, I don't have a problem with that.
Tyler: Even then, even Celtics fans were like "c'mon man, led em? c'mon man."
Coley: Right yeah.
Tyler: Like c'mon, like he was there! He had some good games, lead? That's just revisionist.
Coley: I've seen a lot of that lately too, claiming that he lead them there.
Tyler: That's how it goes man.
Coley: And especially as he continues to get better too it'll just only grow.
Tyler: That's what i'm afraid of.
Coley: He dunked on LeBron, LeBron never won another game in his life.
Tyler: Yeah, retired on the spot. Hasn't been heard of since. Went west. But boy oh boy, then he talked about the window you guys have cause of Tatum and Brown. I was like if there's one thing I know about NBA windows, they last forever my friend. So you guys are in good shape.
Coley: Yeah no that was, to actually go back because when we lost that game I remember I was tweeting very dark things just because I was very depressed about that loss.
Tyler: Sure.
Coley: And everyone was like "yeah it sucks but we're getting Kyrie and Hayward back" and I was like that doesn't mean anything. *laughs*
Tyler: *laughs* yeah people said that too "did Kyrie and Hayward play in that series?" They didn't play in any of the ones before I don't know why they would play in that one and they still made it
Coley: Sure didn't but yeah in that moment they were like "Kyrie and Hayward are coming back, this is just the beginning". I was like you do not know that and boy oh boy was I right.
Tyler: And they were too! It was just the beginning *laughs* I think both sides were right! It was the beginning of the end of the Kyrie Irving era. *laughing*
Coley: *laughs* Yeah like making it that far was maybe the most detrimental thing that happened all things considered *laughing*
Tyler: 100% it set the expectations way too high.
Coley: Yeah, what were we supposed to win like 60 some games? Like Vegas, not even Simmons.
Tyler: Yeah no it was high, Zach Lowe's like I got 'em 68-14 *laughs*
Coley: And I was like "way under like there's no chance"
Tyler: *laughs* yeah like every single person picking for that was like "listen I know it's a lot, only like 9 teams ever have done it. Having said that, here's why Kyrie Irving will lead one of those teams!" I was like okay! alright!
Coley: I was hopeful that it would work out
Tyler: Sure!
Coley: I remember saying Eastern Conference Finals was the floor, they didn't reach the floor!
Tyler: Umm, y'all made it to the basement.
Coley: Fast, fast!
Tyler: Top step of the basement perhaps.
Coley: But yeah that window shit, like Tatum's been great, Jaylen's been great. I like where the team's at, it's a fun group of guys, I think they can certainly compete, if things break their way and horrendous injuries befall their opponents much like the Raptors last year...I think they can definitely win a championship!
Tyler: That's all it takes! All it takes is one or two crippling injuries to all-nba players in the finals. But we've seen it happen!
Coley: That's the thing.
Tyler: You'd be a fool not to put it-, that's how Steph got a ring! Then Kevin Durant won him his other 2!
Coley: *hearty chuckles*
Tyler: And now he's got 3! Kinda.
Coley: Yeah! *exhales* but yeah, carried...I think Terry did as much to carry them there.
Tyler: I agree, I feel like Al Horford when he was still alive god bless his soul.
Coley: Yeah, Horford was huge those playoffs.
Tyler: Yeah and they were led by 11 year old Jayson Tatum, they put the banner right next to Red's "Lost in the Eastern Conference Finals"
Coley: At home!
Tyler: Right next to the cigar! Yeah at home, just the way Auerbach woulda liked it!
Coley: That game bothered me way more than the LeBron game 6 when he was with Miami.
Tyler: Why? Just cause it was 7 at home?
Coley: It was 7 at home, we should have won that game 7 more than we should of won that series against Miami.
Tyler: I feel like you had a better shot! Even then it was one of those, like 7 anything can happen but anything can't happen man. It's LeBron James in the east.
Coley: People like to only bring back my incorrect takes, me saying Jeff Green was going to hit pivotal shots in that game was maybe the most succinct thing that's ever been uttered on this or any other program.
Tyler: *laughs* Jeff Green carried them to that loss! Put his name on the banner!
Coley: *exhales* Yeah it was the best he's ever played in that building.
Tyler: I think that's fair to say, but that's the only time he ever played there!
Coley: *exhales*
Tyler: Jeff Green's in the doc you might not like that part.
Coley: I was gonna say he's another DMV guy!
Tyler: You might not like that part, yeah.
Coley: I'm gonna yell at Quinn Cook about Jeff Green!
Tyler: You might not like that part, yeah. Quinn comes in "and i'll tell you another thing about that fucking Jeff Green!"
Coley: Jeff Green. *disgusted* That's another AAU memory, being at practice the night of that lottery and practice ending and I was like we just need to be in the top 2 that's it. Just need to be in the top 2.
Tyler: That was in....07?
Coley: 07, I was like we just need to be in the top 2.
Tyler: Oh yeah
Coley: Ainge had already been fined for how much he was hangin' around mama Durant.
Tyler: Oh yeah he was hootin' and hollerin' for Durant
Coley: *laughs*
Tyler: Like "ahhh, if we get him give me all the tampering charges i'm fine with it"
Coley: Yeah!
Tyler: "I'll pay 'em cash!" *laughs*
Coley: *mighty raucous laughter*
Tyler: Danny Ainge moves into Kevin Durant's Texas dormitory!
Coley: Yeah...we would of traded Pierce which would of hurt but I was so all in on what was gonna happen with Rondo, like Rondo growing into himself with KD, Tony Allen.
Tyler: What where was-, like was there a deal for Pierce set up?
Coley: I believe it was Dallas
Tyler: Ooo, interesting.
Coley: So it would of been a lot of stuff but Ainge thrives with stuff.
Tyler: He likes stuff and Kevin Durant.
Coley: Right that's the thing, that's the bang, that's the joker...and then who knows like that team would of stunk that year cause that's just what it would of been.
Tyler: And then moved to Oklahoma City! Yeah that's just how it works.
Coley: *laughs immensely* then the next year, who knows who they get. He's always loved Russ, who knows if he would've taken him. Was that the Steph draft? No.
Tyler: I think Steph's 2 after, yeah Steph's '09 draft.
Coley: Yeah so '08s what Rose and Beasley.
Tyler: Yeah that was Rose Beasley who was 3rd in that draft?
Coley: Wasn't Love was it?
Tyler: Nah he was 4, Mayo! Yup
Coley: Mayo, oh boy that's who we would of got. *laughs*
Tyler: It was Mayo, Westbrook, Love and then they swapped Mayo for Love. Good times.
Coley: We might of taken Love
Tyler: Chubby white guy? I feel like Boston woulda liked some K-Love
Coley: Love and Al Jeff 4,5 *laughing*
Tyler: *laughs* The widest front court in history like listen I don't know about that much on defense but you're not getting a rebound
Coley: No!
Tyler: Yeah so you better hit the shot!
Coley: Yeah that's what I mean...Rondo, Tony Allen, Kevin Durant doing all of the scoring.
Tyler: Mhmm, Gallinari, Eric Gordon, Joe Alexander of course.
Coley: *exhales*
Tyler: Brook Lopez was 10th that draft, Anthony Randolph, Mo "Buckets" Speights, wow!
Coley: Oh I definitely woulda been like "If we get Randolph to pair with Durant, are you kidding me?"
Tyler: *laughs* Wrap it up! Just give us the title now!
Coley: *laughing profusely*
Tyler: At the very least 2k woulda been lit for like 3 years
Coley: *exhales* Yeah I woulda been like "If you just play it for 2 years, these guys are the same guy!"
Tyler: Just sim it out! Like Roy Hibbert went 17th and I feel like I haven't heard his name forever, 18th was Javale McGee who's contending for a championship this season. That's wild.
Coley: Yeah, and has for like the last 5 years.
Tyler: Mhmmm. Ibaka was that draft, Batum, George Hill goodness! That's just the first round, is this slick the best draft of all time?
Coley: Yeah this is a strong draft.
Tyler: Jesus, second round is Nikola Pekovic, Super Nintendo Chalmers, Deandre Jordan, Omer Asik, Luc Mbah a Moute, CDR Chris Douglas Roberts, Goran Dragic! What a great draft, jesus. The afore mentioned Henry Bill Walker.
Coley: Oh I through a fiesta when we got Bill Walker, for cash! For cold hard cash.
Tyler: Dude, oh yeah. Jo Crawford went like 3rd to last to the Lakers I was like "Oh boy, Kobe 2. Jo Crawford's gonna learn from Kobe and that's just that! Y'all fucked up, y'all let the Lakers get the 58th pick in the draft man you guys are in trouble!" *laughing*
Coley: *laughing* Yeah, haven't learned yet huh?
Tyler: Oh boy, yeah Mamba to Mamba.
Coley: Yeah we added Bill Walker to a championship team and I was like well this train's just gonna keep on chuggin'!
Tyler: *laughs*
Coley: *laughing*
Tyler: Good lord, Russell Westbrook's the all time Win Shares leader for this draft, not surprising. Deandre Jordan second! A little surprising, i'll admit.
Coley: Yeah he was someone I was like "If he can learn from KG, are you kidding me"
Tyler: See I remember that was the year, Deandre did that freshman year and wasn't sure if he was gonna go pro yet and Billie Gillispie came to Kentucky and there was talk that he was just gonna follow Gillispie cause he was one and done but he kinda wasn't expected to go one and done which is why he fell second round and I was like "no we'll just have Deandre Jordan, oh he's going pro!? This'll never work out!"
Coley: *laughs*
Tyler: "Good luck! Last time I hear that name" and it was!
Coley: Yeah I was like if he can just even learn the basics from Garnett, catching lobs. That was the thing I always was just looking, and Ainge was not, always just looking for someone to catch lobs from Rondo that's just something he never had.
Tyler: It's only 2 points
Coley: For sure but if he had that I feel like he would of averaged like 15 assists a game for a good 3 years there.
Tyler: *exhales* tell him to alley oop to a 3 point line how bout that! Mm
Coley: *laughs*
Tyler: That's wild, Derrick Rose won an MVP and is 13th in Win Shares for this draft and I don't even think that's a knock on him.
Coley: No.
Tyler: He's right behind DJ Augustin though, that might be a knock. That might be a knock.
Coley: I mean that's Magic assist leader last year friend i'll have you know!
Tyler: He's no Shelvin Mack
Coley: No no.
Tyler: He didn't get a graphic!
Coley: Listen we were comparing him to Rose not legends!
Tyler: Patrick Ewing Jr. also went in this draft, so Patrick Ewing was drafted. This is definitely the best draft of all time
Coley: Everyone says it's 98, it's 84, it's '96 or '08, '84
Tyler: Mhmm, Alexis Ajinca? Oh come on.
Coley: Yeah I was very high on the top of this draft. I was a big Westbrook guy.
Tyler: Yeah I liked Westbrook, I liked Mayo.
Coley: Huge Mayo guy.
Tyler: I liked Rose but I loved Beasley. I was like "Him fallin' to 2 that's trouble! Wade and Beasley. Watch out!"
[The End]
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